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Actually Bearing False Witness

August 2, 2010

Peter Lumpkins (whose relentless “shoot the messenger” tactics have been documented here) has a new video that bears false witness against Dr. James White (link to video – obviously, not recommended).

Whatever merit or lack of merit may be attributed to the production skills used in the video, and leaving aside the mocking spirit employed in the video, the video is premised on lies. The lies include the idea that Dr. White claims that only Calvinists are Christians or that only Calvinists are elect.

Dr. White does not claim that only Calvinists are Christians. In fact, Dr. White views that position as hyper-Calvinism, and Dr. White criticizes it as an improper view.

The second lie, that Dr. White only believes that Calvinists are elect is even less intelligent than the first lie. Election is from all eternity, and people become Calvinists in time. Thus, even if Dr. White held to the position that he himself has condemned as a form of hyper-Calvinism, Dr. White would not say that if you’re not Calvinist you’re not elect.

When you meet someone who is not saved, you don’t know whether they are elect or not. That’s why we Calvinists evangelize the lost indiscriminately, preaching the gospel to all men without distinction, calling them to repent of their sins and trust in Christ.

And since I know Mr. Lumpkins will read this, I’d like to again call him personally to repent of his sins and to trust in Christ. I’m calling him to repent, not because he’s not a Calvinist, but because he’s a liar.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Pray for Mr. Lumpkins.

And separately, let’s help Mr. Lumpkins read John 3:16, all of the verse:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

How is God’s love for the world expressed, according to the verse?

It is expressed by God giving his Son that “whosoever believeth in him” will be saved. In English, that sounds in indefinite – because we use “whosoever” to speak indefinitely. The Greek is more clear: “πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων εἰς αὐτὸν ” literally meaning all the [people] believing in him. That’s the group also known as the elect. It includes those are are now believing on Christ, those who believed in Christ in prior generations, and those who will some day believe in Christ.

We don’t know who they are by name – but we know that they all have this in common: faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Those are the ones whom Christ was sent to save. Whether we read the word “world” broadly as a statement about the world in general or not, the expression of God’s love for the world was to send Jesus Christ to save the elect.

-TurretinFan

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Peter Lumpkins vs. the Messengers

May 15, 2010

Peter Lumpkins who has been faithfully criticizing those who dare to criticize Dr. Caner has added an additional attack to his list. Here’s a quick chronology (Last Updated July 5, 2010) (note that the list is in reverse chronological order):

  1. August 2 – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White
  2. July 17 – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White
  3. July 9 – Peter Lumpkins goes after TurretinFan (and others)
  4. July 8 – Peter Lumpkins goes after Turretinfan
  5. July 6 – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White (and his supporters)
  6. July 3 – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White
  7. July 2 – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White
  8. June 6 – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White
  9. June 5 – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White
  10. June 4 – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White
  11. June 1 – Peter Lumpkins goes after – guess who – yes, James White again
  12. May 28 – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White (big surprise!)
  13. May 22 (in an update) – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White (yet again)
  14. May 21 – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White (again)
  15. May 15 – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White
  16. May 11 – Peter Lumpkins goes after Matt Svoboda
  17. May 9 (and 10th in the updates?) – Peter Lumpkins goes after “Baptist Calvinist Bloggers” and Wade Burleson and Matt Svoboda
  18. April 18 – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White
  19. April 9 – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White
  20. April 7 – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White
  21. March 12 – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White and Founders
  22. February 25 (in the update which appears to be the same day) – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White
  23. February 23 – Peter Lumpkins goes after James White and Tom Ascol

This approach is a classic “shoot the messengers” approach to dealing with criticism. I respectfully call on Peter Lumpkins to pursue a different approach. Some of his posts (such as the May 9 post and the February 25 post) could have been written in a way that deals with the issues without going after Dr. Caner’s critics in a personal way. Obviously, Peter Lumpkins’ favorite target is Dr. James White, but perhaps Mr. Lumpkins can learn to set aside that particular issue.

– TurretinFan


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